Are internal kungfu styles useful in a fight?

now i know that the idea of kungfu isnt to use it and go beat ppl up. i was just wondering about the legitimacy of the internal styles actual application in a fight, you know, being martial arts and all. in particular i was wondering about bajiquan being good for fights. just out of curiousity.|||Baji isn't an internal art. It's mostly external, but with some internal applications.



Yes internal arts are useful in a fight. Bajiquan is as well.|||It could be, it depends entirely on how you train (that's the same with ALL martial arts, not just internal styles of kung fu). You have to train alive, against resiting opponents who don't want to let you do those techniques. If you can apply the techniques against a genuinely resisting training partner under a variety of situations then you can likely use it in a real fight.



Point sparring, technique drilling, forms practice, push hands, chi kung etc will NOT help you in a fight on their own. You HAVE to train alive if you want to use it for real. It won't necessarily be as easy to do this with baji as it would be with boxing for example (bajji doesn't always attract people who want to train alive, baji's body mechanics take longer to learn and become proficientin then some others, etc), but as long as you train your baji the way a kkick boxerboxer/grappler trains their techniques, you'll stand a much better chance of using baji effectively in the real world than anyone else in class.|||check out lawrence larkin. He recently had a fight in strikeforce where he whooped up on a former K-1 fighter. And yes, he is a Kung fu practitioner. As far as internal styles - I am not sure what you mean by that. Fight quest was a decent show from a while back that took 2 Mixed Martial Artists around the world learning different styles, and they will give their opinions and comparisons of the styles. Now on a slightly different note, I believe the three inch punch technique is Kung Fu, and that could definitely be useful in a fight.

Mike also makes a very good point. I served in the army and a saying we had was train like you fight. Learning the techniques is good, but learning how you can apply them in a combat situation is better. For example, if I am training with a partner and I have full mount, If I just let him sweep me instead of offering the resistance and enemy would, then he won't truly learn to apply the sweep in a fight.|||Yes, but it's how you train that decides whether a style is useful in a real fight.



If you did forms all day long, you would be very fit and know how a technique is performed, but you would not necessarily know how to apply or use the tools or have the proper timing. The key is whether you are sparring. No sparring, then not useful. It's the difference between someone who does pushups but never punched a bag or spar against a living breathing thinking human being.



Combat is an ever changing and fluid environment where openings rarely stay open but for a fraction of a second and where your opponent rarely fights fair. It requires a certain level of experience to be able to out think and out fight another person. You don't get that from just forms or simple drills. You have to put it all together and in a manner of speaking, experiment.



Another thing to remember is that in so far as the Chinese are concern, Internal styles are consider the crowning jewel of martial art development. It does not seem like the latest and greatest to us today, but in terms of the 4,000-5,000 years of Chinese history it is the new kid on the block. With this in mind, I think a more interesting question would be if the External styles are in need of revision to incorporate more of the internal styles.|||Bajiquan isn't really an internal art, but it is very good!





I have trained in Sun Lu Tang Style Hsing I Chuan, an Internal Art and the techniques I learned are devastating. This art was developed by General Yue Fei from the techniques of Battle Field Weapons. Yue Fei was the Founder of many arts and techniques that influence Chinese martial arts across a broad spectrum from the 108 Grappling Hands of the Eagle Claw Fist to Qigong routines.





So the Internal Arts were proven on the Battle Field.|||Sure they are. Martial art techniques in the internal arts tend to be subtle and less direct. However you need to work these individual applications with a partner for them to be effective.|||Read this for a comprehensive answer.





http://dandjurdjevic.blogspot.com/2008/0鈥?/a>|||Any MA is good in a fight as long as u know how to apply what uve learned in class.