Thursday, November 24, 2011

Why is only tkd is a olympic sport?and not karate or kungfu or mma?

what is the speciality in tkd?|||Shihan J has answered this well. He also pointed out that there are at least 75 different styles of Taekwondo that are recognized by the Korean government as being valid Taekwondo styles. Here in the U.S.A. I often meet people that study TKD. When asked what style of TKD they study, many look at me like I'm crazy. Some say regular TKD....... All TKD is either one of the established styles, or has come from one of them.








NOTE: Shiro Kuma, Shihan J, and Samuraiwarrior all gave very good answers.








...|||To qualify as an IOC-recognized sport, and later on an Olympic event, a sport must be popular all across the globe, and there has to be a global governing organization (there are of course other technical requirements, but these are the main ones.) The Korean government managed to achieve both things for what essentially is their national sport.





Karate and kung fu (or 'wushu' might be more correct) each encompass a wide range of styles, governed by different organizations with different rules regarding competition. So, there is no single representative - both in terms of style and organization - to globally represent karate and kungfu. Both arts are actually recognized officially by the IOC, but they are not contested in the Olympics.





For MMA, global recognition has not been achieved yet, and there is no single, worldwide governing organization.





So, all three of them don't qualify to be inducted into the Olympics yet - and the way things are, I doubt they will.|||Specifically, Tae Kwon Do is a specific martial art, whereas...





Karate is a generic term for a broad range of martial arts (Tae Kwon Do is karate).





Kungfu is actually a term meaning roughly "good at doing" something (maybe you have kung fu in Tae Kwon Do) but it doesn't really even have to be a martial art (you can have kung fu in painting or eye blinking for instance)





and


Mixed martial arts is just that, mixed martial arts (of which Tae Kwon Do is a martial art which can *surprise* be mixed with other martial arts).





The Olympics are all about being able to judge how good you are at some *specific* thing, so they picked a *specific* martial art.





Also, they do (usually) have boxing, which is also a martial art, so they don't just do the one.


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(@ Shijan J -%26gt; every discipline has different styles, my point is karate, mma, and kung fu are not even their own arts, it would be like making "food preparation" and "muscle use" their own olympic events.)|||MMA wouldn't really work in the olympics. First off there really are only 3-4 countries (US, Brazil, England, Japan) that have enough fighters in enough weight classes.





Also its hard to do because of the amount of damage the fighters take. Most fighters need to take a minimum of a few weeks off after each fight because of cuts and bruises that have to heal. It would be hard for fighters to fight 3-4 times in a week that would be necessary for a tournament.





Also the major organizations would never allow this. Imagine how pissed the UFC would be if GSP broke his arm fighting in the olympics. The UFC wouldn't see a $ and one of their biggest stars would be out for months.





I think down the road we might see submission grappling put in the olympics. I'm think that is maybe 10 years away as we have to wait for the rest of the world to catch up with Brazil and the United States.|||Back before this all came about there were two competing movements to get each sport into the Olympics. For those of you who are not familiar with this process it is not a quick, easy one and there are a whole host of hoops you have to jump through and conditions that you have to meet first. Then it is voted on and if passed it is put in as a trial or demonstration sport.





One of the things that TKD and the WTF did was they and a lot of those people were able to set aside their differences and egos and formulate and propose a standardized set of rules for competition, weight classes, and a solid plan for qualifying tournaments for the purpose of team members to be selected from in a whole host of countries, and a unified governing body, the WTF, who could over see and conduct this. TKD by this time had already been an AAU junior sport and the WTF could also point to this as an example of how this could be done and show that they had the ability to do it.





Karate with its various styles, associations, and factions could not set aside egos and differences within it and those people trying to do this so they lost out. I watched this whole process very closely and was one of only two non TKD participants in one of the four TKD Olympic qualifying tournaments, one of which was held in St. Louis, MO in 1976. In 1993 I was approached by one of the three Olympic committee members for that sport about my experiences with this as they had started to see problems crop up with this qualifying process in some of the countries that had teams. Arlene Limas of the US team had racked up almost $80K in legal expenses when the WTF had tried to block her from qualifying for and being on the team for the 88 Olympics because of her participation on the NASKA national circuit. It was left out of the 96 Olympics even as a demonstration sport because of some other problems and improprieties and many thought it would be permanently out then. In 2000 it was awarded full medal status but the continuation of that remains in question since the IOC can vote it out and has at times shown that it might still do that.





Since then karate has come very close to be included in the Olympics and I have a friend who is very active in this movement, Frank Babcock-the director of KICK International. He attended a meeting concerning this very thing in 2008 that was held along with an international tournament in Morocco with several representatives from the Olympic committee in attendance. At a subsequent meeting of the Olympic committee karate just missed being voted in as a demonstration sport by several votes.|||U Betcha, there are over 75 styles of taekwon do not one





Shiro Kuma got this correct,


the sport needs to be popular in a certain percentage of countries for both men and women, as well as a unified governing organization|||I have been doing Tae Kwon Do for 8 years and i have never seen the specialty of it. Thats why i moved on to start Muay Thai and later BJJ





I think TKD got lucky|||well they would not be allowed at this point as they are so very similar (they do not like sports to be too similar)





also taeqwando is more easily quantified as there are much less versions of it to consider|||olympics was in korea, and the host country could pick certain sports to put into the olympics so korea put in takuwando as japan had introduced judo in 1964

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